incredible to some people, but nonetheless before this past weekend, president obama quietly signed a executive order that gives a small pay raise to two million federal workers and a small pay raise to all 535 members of congress. they will get an extra $900 each in the forthcoming year starting march 27th. but they get a pay raise. so the people who could not come to an agreement on cutting spending will in fact be spending more on themselves using money which we do not have. heather: speaking of all that spending we are expected to hit the debt ceiling in just hours. another blow to the economy. >> that means that we are about to run out of money and we can not borrow anymore. treasury secretary tim geithner says, well, we'll move some money around so we won't default on our obligations but nonetheless we are out of money. this means if a debt ceiling deal is not included any fiscal cliff deal, and it is not likely to be. gregg: then this debt mess continues for a few months. and we've still got to argue that out in congress between congress and the president. heather: geithner s